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RC5 & RC6 Codes
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Post 1 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 07:39
Audio 7
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I'm programming a remote with a Linn Unidisk SC and a Klimax Kontrol. The problem is when I change the input on the SC the Kontrol also changes input. Apparently there is somewhere that I can change a system and command value but I can't find it. Does any of this make sense to anyone? And, can anyone help?
Post 2 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 08:01
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On 07/02/04 07:39, Audio 7 said...
Apparently there is somewhere that I can change
a system and command value

If that is a distorted quote of something you were told or read somewhere, any chance of a more accurate quote or a link to whatever it was that you read?

In ProntoEdit you can easily select the system and command values for an RC5 or RC6 signal. But those values must be ones that mean something to your device, or it won't do you any good to make your Pronto send them.

I assume from the symptom you describe, that the two devices share at least one command. Maybe one of the devices has some method to switch it to an alternate code set (make it expect a different system value). But you'd need to get that information from the manufacturer. There is no generic method worth trying.

but I can't find it.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? And, can
anyone help?

It doesn't make enough sense to give a solid answer.

You should post some samples of Pronto hex from both devices including the problem command.

Some of the Linn devices in CCF files use RC5x protocol as well as RC5. If the other device doesn't duplicate that, you may be able to find RC5x commands that do some operations that are now problems with RC5.

OP | Post 3 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 08:44
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John, thanks for your response, I will try to be more specific...

You are correct in assuming that the two devices use the same IR codes, it would seem for every function. Apparently it didn't occure to Linn that both devices would be used together. It has been suggested that one of the devices can be switched to another codeset. I was told that I should go into the "learn IR" page of pronto edit and there would be a sub page labelled RC5 or RC6 and then I can enter a system or command value which have been supplied by Linn.

I have a PDF with instructions but being new to this forum edon't know how to attach it.
Post 4 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 09:23
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On 07/02/04 08:44, Audio 7 said...
You are correct in assuming that the two devices
use the same IR codes,

Actually I was guessing that only a few commands overlapped. I didn't look up Unidisk SC, so I have no clue what it is and assumed it was something other than a preamp, so I wouldn't expect it to use mainly the RC5 system 16 used by Linn preamps.

Apparently it didn't occure to Linn
that both devices would be used together.

But what you said below indicates that they did provide for it.

It has
been suggested that one of the devices can be
switched to another codeset. I was told that I
should go into the "learn IR" page of pronto edit
and there would be a sub page labelled RC5 or
RC6 and then I can enter a system or command value
which have been supplied by Linn.

I don't have a working copy of ProntoEdit handy, so I can't give you exact instructions. But those instructions sound clear enough already. There are also instructions in many threads here on how to get into that dialog and assign any desired system and command to a key.

I assume you need to make a complete code set, either by entering the published system and command for every function, or by changing the system on a set of commands you already learned for the intial code set.

Having created the new code set, there must then be instructions to reprogram one of the devices to respond to that new code set. Some devices have menues from which you can select a change of code set. Some have physical switches for code set. Others have a sequence of steps, such as unplug power for a while and then right after plugging it back in send the power toggle command of the new code set.

I have a PDF with instructions but being new to
this forum edon't know how to attach it.

You can't attach it. Posting a URL is better if you have one. Otherwise, if there is something in there you'd like me to explain, you can email the pdf to me. My email address is in the "Author's profile" link above each of my posts.

Post 5 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 09:53
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I got your email.

I think the NG version of ProntoEdit does not include the dialog to select the system and device values for RC5 in decimal.

But I think all versions of ProntoEdit let you do this another way. You can view and directly edit the Pronto hex.

For example, the vol- command should look something like

5000 0000 0000 0001 0010 0011

Don't worry if the second value is different (non zero) or if the third and fourth are exchanged. The important parts are the fifth, which is the system in hex (10 hex is 16 decimal) and the sixth, which is the command in hex (11 hex is 17 decimal).

If you change the fifth number from 0010 to 0013, that will change the system from 16 to 19.
OP | Post 6 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 10:34
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Fantastic! thanks again John.
Post 7 made on Friday July 2, 2004 at 10:50
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I just reinstalled ProntoEdit4 on my computer (been meaning to do that for quite a while since its registry setting got corrupted).

To change the system:

1) Get into Button Properties.

2a) If there is an IR signal listed in the large white area (such as [C] RC5 16 17) then double click on that.

2b) If there isn't then click "Set Ir"

3) Either of those gets you to the Add IR dialog. If the Pronto Hex isn't visible at the botom, click View IR>>

4a) You can edit the Pronto Hex directly, or

4b) Click Advanced to get to the RC5/6 dialog.
Post 8 made on Monday August 23, 2004 at 16:51
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I'm just starting out programming my RU970 Pronto for use with Linn Unidisk SC & AV5125 power amp. Given that the Unidisk is a somewhat strange combination of CD/DVD player and AV processor, any advice on appropriate set up would be most welcome.

Thanks.
Jose de Nobrega
Post 9 made on Tuesday August 31, 2004 at 08:19
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I got an email this morning asking about the PDF file mentioned in this thread. I switch among a few computers, so I don't have the return address handy to reply by email. I also don't have the PDF file.

I don't remember ever getting that PDF file. The email I got from Audio7 on July 2 just asked how to change the system number from 16 to 19 in Pronto Hex for RC5 (which I answered in this thread).

If someone wants more information about this Linn device, you're better off asking here rather than asking me by email, because I don't really know anything about this device, but others reading this might.

Jose, if you emailed me and/or you're still looking for an answer to the question you posted Aug 23, try asking a more specific question. The question you asked is too general to get a good reply.

I guess Alex at Audio7 figured out what he needed for this device. I see his email is in his profile, and I suspect he doesn't monitor this forum regularly. So if you want his help, I suggest asking here and then emailing him either a copy of the question or a URL back to this thread (so if he answers it benefits people who find this thread later).

But I do monitor the forums I'm active in quite regularly, so if you want to ask me an IR question, don't use email.


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